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it appears to be winning in colorado and also in washington state. in oregon, the last major poll showed the measure behind, but only by single digits. that's one thing to deep in mind. the drug war might look different at this time tomorrow than it does today. it could also be a big night for gay rights. every time it's been on the ballot, the reco voters rejected marrge equality back in 2009 but they seem ready to support it now. also do you remember the law in michigan passed by the republican legislature that lets them override your local vote? their emergency manager law. the dpoef claims the right to overrule whoever you voted for in mayor or city council. the governor can install his own overseer to do whatever he wants. he can fire officials. he can cancel contracts and even dissolve the whole town without consent of anyone the town. democracy is not how we solve a problem and it can be shut down in michigan on the governor's say so. if that sounds radical, it is. i think it's the most radical things that republicans put into effect in any st
it appears to be winning in colorado and also in washington state. in oregon, the last major poll showed the measure behind, but only by single digits. that's one thing to deep in mind. the drug war might look different at this time tomorrow than it does today. it could also be a big night for gay rights. every time it's been on the ballot, the reco voters rejected marrge equality back in 2009 but they seem ready to support it now. also do you remember the law in michigan passed by the...
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nbc's tracie potts is in washington with the latest on that. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning everyone. the party is over now in chicago. he's back here, and the real work begins starting with the economy including that fiscal cliff that you mentioned. taxes and budget problems that could kick in by the end of this year. >> i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together. >> reporter: fresh off his election victory, president obama's already been on the phone with top democrats and republicans in congress urging them to compromise before america falls off the fiscal cliff. what's that? long-term unemployment benefits and the 2% payroll tax cut expiring, a big cut in medicare payments, and your taxes going up january 1 if congress doesn't act. plus, another $500 billion in cuts at the pentagon. boeing, the military's second largest supplier, already announced a second round of executive layoffs. >> nobody wants to see this fiscal cliff without a deal b
nbc's tracie potts is in washington with the latest on that. tracie, good morning. >> reporter: good morning everyone. the party is over now in chicago. he's back here, and the real work begins starting with the economy including that fiscal cliff that you mentioned. taxes and budget problems that could kick in by the end of this year. >> i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together. >>...
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why can't they in washington? >> it seems those on capitol hill forget that we are all in this together and we are all americans and it is for the greater good. is that because of money? special interests, trying to hang on to job security? why is that? >> it's a combination of a lot of things. money has a lot to do with it. money is a mother's milk of politics. people who give money give it to advance their personal interests. it may be their economic interest, their cultural interest of some kind, now they have the instrumentation of the internet and blogging to enforce their points of view. so if a congressman or a senator strays a little bit, they can unleash a kind of jihad against them. now that drains whatever courage was left in that congressman or senator. and we're left with what we've got. the country is deeply divided philosophically, there's no question that. the tea party plays by the rules. they angry and they stayed on message. when i have people complain to me about them, i say if you want to be a
why can't they in washington? >> it seems those on capitol hill forget that we are all in this together and we are all americans and it is for the greater good. is that because of money? special interests, trying to hang on to job security? why is that? >> it's a combination of a lot of things. money has a lot to do with it. money is a mother's milk of politics. people who give money give it to advance their personal interests. it may be their economic interest, their cultural...
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they have hired high-powered washington attorney abbe lowell. kristen welker, nbc news, washington. >>> and in a story that just gets more bizarre by the hour, you can add the comments of religious broadcaster pat robertson. on monday's edition of "the 700 club," robertson had this analysis of the petraeus/broadwell affair. >> she is an extremely good looking woman. she's a marathon runner so she's out running with him writing a biography and i think the permanent is proquintit. the man's off in a foreign land, and he's lonely, and here's a good-looking lady throwing herself at him. i mean, he's a man. >> we'll let you see how you feel about that. well, as we mentioned, we are expecting to hear from president obama on these growing scandals later today. nbc news will have live coverage of the president's news conference from the east room of the white house beginning at 1:30 eastern time the place for politics. >>> well, now for your look at the weather, here's nbc bill karins. scandal-free. >> as far as you know. you might have to dig a little
they have hired high-powered washington attorney abbe lowell. kristen welker, nbc news, washington. >>> and in a story that just gets more bizarre by the hour, you can add the comments of religious broadcaster pat robertson. on monday's edition of "the 700 club," robertson had this analysis of the petraeus/broadwell affair. >> she is an extremely good looking woman. she's a marathon runner so she's out running with him writing a biography and i think the permanent is...
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they need a champion in washington. because they don't have lobby t lobbyists. the future will never have as many lobbyists as the status quo does, as vested interests do, but it is the dreams of those children that will be our saving grace. and that's why i need you, colorado, to make sure their voices are heard. to make sure your voices are heard. we have come too far to turn back now. we've come too far to let our hearts grow wary. now's the time to keep push forward, to educate all our kids, train all our workers, create new jobs, rebuild our infrastructure, bring our troops home, care for our veterans, broaden opportunity, grow our middle class, restore our democracy, make sure that here in america, no matter who you are, where you come from, how you started out, what you look like, it doesn't matter whether you're black or white, hispanic, asian, native american, young, old, rich, poor, able, disabled, gay, straight, here in america you can make it if you try. that's why i need your vote. that's what we believe in. that's why we're pushing forward. and if
they need a champion in washington. because they don't have lobby t lobbyists. the future will never have as many lobbyists as the status quo does, as vested interests do, but it is the dreams of those children that will be our saving grace. and that's why i need you, colorado, to make sure their voices are heard. to make sure your voices are heard. we have come too far to turn back now. we've come too far to let our hearts grow wary. now's the time to keep push forward, to educate all our...
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that's the big issue here in washington. so signalling that he would be willing to work with the president. now, will this actually happen? of course, the republican conference is larger than the house, so speaker boehner is saying something in his conference going along with it are two different things. they're in a wait and see mode. we won't see the crisis of debt debate in the summer of 2011. >> i hope you're right. nationally syndicated host and msnbc contributor michael sikonis, and a.b. stott dard, social editor for the hill paper as well as the huffington post. sam stein with us. sam, let's start off with you. speaker boehner says he's open to tax revenue, also spending cuts. similar to the speaker boehner before some of the house republicans got ahold of him, and he basically pulled back on a deal struck with the president. >> yeah. i mean, this is a complicated thing for speaker boehner because he doesn't have a lot of chips here. obama can sit on his hands and not sign any extension of the bush tax cuts. so he's g
that's the big issue here in washington. so signalling that he would be willing to work with the president. now, will this actually happen? of course, the republican conference is larger than the house, so speaker boehner is saying something in his conference going along with it are two different things. they're in a wait and see mode. we won't see the crisis of debt debate in the summer of 2011. >> i hope you're right. nationally syndicated host and msnbc contributor michael sikonis, and...
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in the "washington post" today, they took a stab at diagnosing what ails the republicans now. specifically, he assessed why the republican party has an issue with women voters. the problem for republicans is not policy but delicacy. speaking about culturally sensitive and philosophically complex issues with reflection and prudence. republicans don't have a policy problem when it comes to women's issues. they just speak about their preferences with unsufficient delicacy. women don't mind that this is how republicans are governing with respect to women's rights they just like to hear that their rights are being repealed. republicans should just find a more delicate way to describe things like transvaginal ultrasounds. you can say that more softly and in cursive, but it's still going to bring protesters out on to the streets to line your walk of shame into the building from which you are trying to govern that way. in ohio mitt romney lost women by 11 points. he lost the state and the presidency. since republicans are saying that the gender gap has nothing to do with policy, you w
in the "washington post" today, they took a stab at diagnosing what ails the republicans now. specifically, he assessed why the republican party has an issue with women voters. the problem for republicans is not policy but delicacy. speaking about culturally sensitive and philosophically complex issues with reflection and prudence. republicans don't have a policy problem when it comes to women's issues. they just speak about their preferences with unsufficient delicacy. women don't...
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bill kristol is influential with republicans in washington. i'm stunned with what i'm hearing? >> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching republicans how to talk about this. but it does involve a word for word refutation of what they said in the past, that higher rates will kill the economy. there is bill kristol pointing out how we've done perfectly fine under higher rates in the past. >> what he's trying to get through to republicans, particularly the new class that came in in 2010, okay, you campaigned on all of these promises, but now it's time to govern and things have come to a standstill in washington over the last two years, and now with the fiscal cliff or fiscal curve coming, and the president being re-elected with more than 50% of
bill kristol is influential with republicans in washington. i'm stunned with what i'm hearing? >> i almost fell out of my chair when boehner said revenues. the idea of increasing revenues. that's a central argument that we have been having over the last four years, and the very expensive i told you so i guess. if we're going to get to this problem, we have to deal with revenues, we can't just do it all on the spending side. >> jonathan capehart, there is bill kristol teaching...
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washington state looks the best for gay rights. the polling says voters look ready to approve marriage equality. also there's maine where maine voters rejected marriage equality back in 2009 but they seem ready to support it now. also do you remember the law in michigan passed by the republican legislature that lets them override your local vote? their emergency manager law where the governor claims the right to overrule whoever it is you voted for for mirror city council in your town. the governor can install his own overseer to do whatever he wants. he can cancel contracts, sell off the town assets, even dissolve the whole town, without the consent of anyone in the town. michigan emergency manager law. democracy is not how we self problems. democracy is a problem and it can be shut down in mitch on the governor's say-so. if that sounds radical, it is. that radical law is going to be on the ballot in michigan tomorrow for repeal. and if the polls are correct, it looks like it is going to be repealed. only a third or so of michigan
washington state looks the best for gay rights. the polling says voters look ready to approve marriage equality. also there's maine where maine voters rejected marriage equality back in 2009 but they seem ready to support it now. also do you remember the law in michigan passed by the republican legislature that lets them override your local vote? their emergency manager law where the governor claims the right to overrule whoever it is you voted for for mirror city council in your town. the...
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. >> the folks at the top in this country, they don't need a champion in washington. they will have a seat at the table. they will have access and influence. we understand that but the people who need a champion are the letters whose i read every night. those un peopyoung people and s pa farm towns and up here kids dreaming of becoming scientists maybe even a president they need a champion in washington. >> the president saying he is an agent for change. governor romney using his talents as a saililsalesman to up the policies that we have been cleaning up after after these last four years. my opponent can talk about change but i know what change looks like because i fought for it. because i have the scars to prove it. >> michael bloomberg did not endorse a presidential candidate in 2008. today he endorsed president in and writes the devastation that hurricane sandy brought the stakes of tuesday's election to sharp relief. i want our president to play scientific evidence above electoral politics. mitt romney will campaign and during the 2008 campaign senator john mccai
. >> the folks at the top in this country, they don't need a champion in washington. they will have a seat at the table. they will have access and influence. we understand that but the people who need a champion are the letters whose i read every night. those un peopyoung people and s pa farm towns and up here kids dreaming of becoming scientists maybe even a president they need a champion in washington. >> the president saying he is an agent for change. governor romney using his...
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. >> the folks at the top in this country, they don't need a champion in washington. they will have a seat at the table. they will have access and influence. we understand that but the people who need a champion are the letters whose i read every night. those young people and small farm towns and up here kids dreaming of becoming scientists maybe even a president they need a champion in washington. >> the president saying he is an agent for change. governor romney using his talents as a salesman to dress up the policies that we have been cleaning up after after these last four years. my opponent can talk about change but i know what change looks like because i fought for it. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories
. >> the folks at the top in this country, they don't need a champion in washington. they will have a seat at the table. they will have access and influence. we understand that but the people who need a champion are the letters whose i read every night. those young people and small farm towns and up here kids dreaming of becoming scientists maybe even a president they need a champion in washington. >> the president saying he is an agent for change. governor romney using his talents...
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and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announcer ] for years, bob took warfarin, and made a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. but not anymore. bob's doctor recommended a different option: once-a-day xarelto®. xarelto® is the first and only once-a-day prescription blood thinner for patients with afib not caused by a heart valve problem, that doesn't require routine blood monitoring. like warfarin, xarelto® is proven effective to reduce the risk of an afib-related stroke. there is limited data on how these drug
and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve...
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today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not expected to talk about his personal indiscretions that ended his cia career last week. instead, he'll be discussing details in the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that resulted in the death of christopher stevens and three others. >>> also, the controversy over u.n. ambassador susan rice calling the assault spontaneous in september reached a boiling point. yesterday president obama and his first news conference since re-election exploded at republicans finger pointing over rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and besmir much her reputation is outrageous. >> earlier, senators mccain and graham slammed rice vowing to stop her
today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not expected to talk about his personal indiscretions that ended his cia career last week. instead, he'll be discussing details in the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that resulted in the death of christopher stevens and three others. >>> also, the controversy over u.n. ambassador susan rice...
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that is the proposal that won by ten points in colorado and by 12 points in washington state. according to these ballot initiatives, it will not be illegal to buy or possess less than an ounce pot over the age of 21. on paper it's that pot is regulated much like alcohol is, but the really important difference is, the really important difference is that according to the federal government and therefore for the whole united states of america everywhere according to the federal government it's illegal to buy or sell pot. that's just as much the law as these new state laws that say the opposite. what's going to happen here? is it legal or not? is it going to be legal to buy and sell and smoke pot in colorado and washington, or is it not? we are not the only ones asking this question. the people in charge are asking the question, too. the governor of colorado has indicated he also has no idea how this is going to work. on election day he put out a state reminding coloradans under federal law pot is still illegal, so they should hold off on the cheat toes and goldfish for the time b
that is the proposal that won by ten points in colorado and by 12 points in washington state. according to these ballot initiatives, it will not be illegal to buy or possess less than an ounce pot over the age of 21. on paper it's that pot is regulated much like alcohol is, but the really important difference is, the really important difference is that according to the federal government and therefore for the whole united states of america everywhere according to the federal government it's...
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. >>> it was a huge news day in washington today. you sort of expect after a national presidential election that you could get a few days of afterglow. let it all sink in with no big new things happening. maybe that was the way it went over the last couple of days. that definitely ended today starting with this. >> thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you. now that those of us on the campaign trail have had a chance to get a little sleep, it's time to get back to work and there's plenty of work to do. as i said on tuesday night, the american people voted for action not politics as usual. you elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours. and in that spirit, i've invited leaders of both parties to the white house next week so we can start to build consensus around the challenges that we can only solve together. at a time when our economy is still recovering from the great recession, our top priority has to be jobs and growth. that's the focus of the plan that i talked about during the campaign. >> president obama spoke publicly the nig
. >>> it was a huge news day in washington today. you sort of expect after a national presidential election that you could get a few days of afterglow. let it all sink in with no big new things happening. maybe that was the way it went over the last couple of days. that definitely ended today starting with this. >> thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you. now that those of us on the campaign trail have had a chance to get a little sleep, it's time to get back to work and...
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i think at least one of them needs to change if you want to get different results in washington, d.c. >> the house would be the best one. >> republican obstruction is another subject of conversation. we'll get to that another time. david walker, thanks for joining us. we're still waiting on the president to speak in ohio, and we'll have it for you ahead. up next, a break from politics answering the age old question, does heaven actually exist? the first time there may be scientific proof turning skeptics into believers. new trident layers juicy berry + tangy tangerine is a thrilling, dual-flavored ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like everyone is going to break into a karaoke jam session. ♪ this will literally probably never happen. ♪ >>> some of the tragic stories from sandy has been difficult to comprehend. this one is a man sheltered in his home doing what authorities told him to do when a tree crashed through a roof and killed him. a couple out walking the dog hit by a tree. both humans are killed but the dog survived. we're not in control of our own destiny. perhaps a hig
i think at least one of them needs to change if you want to get different results in washington, d.c. >> the house would be the best one. >> republican obstruction is another subject of conversation. we'll get to that another time. david walker, thanks for joining us. we're still waiting on the president to speak in ohio, and we'll have it for you ahead. up next, a break from politics answering the age old question, does heaven actually exist? the first time there may be scientific...
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and msnbc politic cal analyst and mother jones washington bureau chief, david corn. the bitter partisan marathon election is over, but what of the bitter partisan marathon gridlock in washington? there are glimmers of hope that lawmakers are prepared to follow advice offered by both presidential candidates. >> our leaders have to reach across the aisle to do the people's work. >> and in the coming weeks and months i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both parties to meet the challenges we can only solve together. >> maybe not initially, as "the new york times" reports, after his speech, mr. obama tried to call both mr. boehner and the senator republican leader, mitch mcconnell but was told they were asleep. >> wake them up, for goodness sake. >> he is the president. >> wake him up. >> yesterday, yesterday, senate majority leader harry reid struck a tone of cautious optimism. >> it's better to dance than to fight. it's bettor work together. i want to work together but i want everyone to also understand, you can't push us around. >> hours la
and msnbc politic cal analyst and mother jones washington bureau chief, david corn. the bitter partisan marathon election is over, but what of the bitter partisan marathon gridlock in washington? there are glimmers of hope that lawmakers are prepared to follow advice offered by both presidential candidates. >> our leaders have to reach across the aisle to do the people's work. >> and in the coming weeks and months i am looking forward to reaching out and working with leaders of both...
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if congress can't get a solution during the next 45 days, senator patti murray of washington suggested a backup plan. >> if the republicans will not agree with that, we will reach a point at the end of this year where all the tax cuts expired and will start over next year. whatever we do will be a tax cut for whatever package we put together. that may be the way to get past this. >> let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steel workers. thank you for being here. labor literally is going to have a seat at the table tomorrow. what are the priorities when you go face to face with the president when your brothers and sisters go face to face with the president. what's the priority list? >> the priority is jobs, jobs, jobs and to make sure that the president moved forward as he talked about. we see what's happened to the countries that have tried austerity. it's important that the president do exactly what he said during the campaign. he won the election by being truthful with the american public. by talking about the tax breaks for the rich have to go the way of the do do bird and
if congress can't get a solution during the next 45 days, senator patti murray of washington suggested a backup plan. >> if the republicans will not agree with that, we will reach a point at the end of this year where all the tax cuts expired and will start over next year. whatever we do will be a tax cut for whatever package we put together. that may be the way to get past this. >> let's turn to leo gerard, president of the united steel workers. thank you for being here. labor...
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and the washington redskins lost their last home game before the election to the carolina panthers, 21-13. the so-called redskins rule prediction might mean that mitt romney will be elected president. the redskins prediction has been correct 17 out of 18 times. >>> college football, alabama held on to the top spot in the bcs standing after pulling out a win over lsu, kansas state is number two, followed by oregon, notre dame and georgia. >>> it is time now for another look at the weather. here's nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather channel forecast. how is your fantasy football team doing, bill? >> we're holing on by a thread, veronica. holding on by a thread. good morning, everyone. of course the big news in the weather has been the aftermath of sandy and what haed and the restoration efforts and the fact that we could have another storm on the hinge of this. let me get into the forecast map as we go into election day and take that storm up the coast. right now starting monday, as we go through the middle of the country, we have the rain and the storm. swings to the southeas
and the washington redskins lost their last home game before the election to the carolina panthers, 21-13. the so-called redskins rule prediction might mean that mitt romney will be elected president. the redskins prediction has been correct 17 out of 18 times. >>> college football, alabama held on to the top spot in the bcs standing after pulling out a win over lsu, kansas state is number two, followed by oregon, notre dame and georgia. >>> it is time now for another look at...
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we talked with congressman van hollen about the extreme partisanship in washington. does the status quo control equal status quo governing? what does your gut tell you? the more things change the more things stay the same? will it break the partisan fever in washington? go to facebook.com/newsnation to cast the vote. we'll look at what you have to say. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next. celain v, crafted with care by a talented blonde from sweden. ♪ smooth, rich, never bitter, gevalia. five days later, i had a massive heart attack.
we talked with congressman van hollen about the extreme partisanship in washington. does the status quo control equal status quo governing? what does your gut tell you? the more things change the more things stay the same? will it break the partisan fever in washington? go to facebook.com/newsnation to cast the vote. we'll look at what you have to say. that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. "the cycle" is up next. celain v, crafted with care by a...
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or will the sharply divided washington continue as status quo? >> what does this president do following lessons of the past to make sure that his second term is more effective than his first? >> the only thing worse than losing a re-election is winning it. >> now is not the time for just celebration or gloating. i think it's the time to really go where he went in the speech. take the high road. bring the country together. make some hard decisions. >> all right. so let's dig right in and bring in our election post game political panel. we have assembled quite the team. assisting managing editor of time, executive editor of msnbc.com, professor at university of virginia center for politics, and columnist for the san francisco chronicle, and republican strategist. it's great to have you all here. i know it's been a long night for so many of us. we still have so much to talk about. ron, i want to start with you. the fact the president won this and did so with the decisive and clean victory. that can't be questioned. the battleground states coming thr
or will the sharply divided washington continue as status quo? >> what does this president do following lessons of the past to make sure that his second term is more effective than his first? >> the only thing worse than losing a re-election is winning it. >> now is not the time for just celebration or gloating. i think it's the time to really go where he went in the speech. take the high road. bring the country together. make some hard decisions. >> all right. so let's...
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in washington -- >> technically it's speaker boehner. >> in washington it's speaker boehner. but outside of washington, i think it's a jump ball. there are new governor who is will sort of be inspected and watched a little bit. but it's a crop of rising young stars. >> i was just going to say is marco rubio the de facto that every donor says where's marco rubio. >> rubio put out a statement last night that was interesting. it's like here's what we need the republican party to do. it wasn't the sort of thing speaking broadly to his party we need to reach out to minorities. and i think that's -- i mean, it was an unusual move i think for a relatively junior senator to put out this defining statement. >> karen, you assume that three of the four candidates for president and vice president in 2016 will not be white men. >> i think that's probably true. >> and i think whoever runs for president is ner going to say they're not going to fund planned parenthood or these other issues. >> but part of the reason you'll see minority candidates is because the republicans actually have a de
in washington -- >> technically it's speaker boehner. >> in washington it's speaker boehner. but outside of washington, i think it's a jump ball. there are new governor who is will sort of be inspected and watched a little bit. but it's a crop of rising young stars. >> i was just going to say is marco rubio the de facto that every donor says where's marco rubio. >> rubio put out a statement last night that was interesting. it's like here's what we need the republican...
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i'm craig melvin from here in washington, d.c. stay with msnbc, a special edition of "the cycle" coming up live next from democracy plaza in the heart of new york city. you're watching msnbc. the place for politics. [ male announcer ] you like who you are... and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. this is the age of taking action. viagra. talk to your doctor. see if america's most prescribed ed treatment is right for you.
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in terms of how they're raising money and how they're spending it, the "washington post" reports that nine of every ten pro obama ads has been sponsored by the president's reelection campaign. romney, by contrast, has not had control over most of the tying run in his favor. over half were aired by crossroads and other well funded conservative groups. i wonder how much that's played into this narrative that has been developing around romney not having a central core message to his campaign, or not being as focused perhaps as the president. i don't know. >> i think there are a lot more coordinated than we like to say. i think they really are controlled. they're kind of conference calls all the time where it's very clear what the sort of republican pro-romney, the same on the democratic side message is going to be. what is different about outside spending versus their own presidential campaign is the outside money can be secret. and that's a serious problem. >> right. >> we don't know who those donors are. >> in fact, some of these groups constituted themselves just a couple of months ag
in terms of how they're raising money and how they're spending it, the "washington post" reports that nine of every ten pro obama ads has been sponsored by the president's reelection campaign. romney, by contrast, has not had control over most of the tying run in his favor. over half were aired by crossroads and other well funded conservative groups. i wonder how much that's played into this narrative that has been developing around romney not having a central core message to his...
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if they can make it work, why can't they make it work in washington? we need more of that to move the country forward. we're still playing by 20th century rules in this country in almost everything we do and we're in the 21st century. what's so striking is we're all in awe of silicon valley and all it produces for us. this transformative technology. what's the mantra of silicon valley? be disruptive. don't be afraid to challenge convention. find new ways to do things. we get excited about that. with our political culture we play by the old rules. >> it's so true. another thing we talked about in this campaign at length is the record number of negative ads, the influx of super-pacs, the fact that the president and mitt romney seem to really have a distaste for one another, and we talk about how nasty this campaign has been overall. is this by historical standards a particularly ugly, nasty campaign, or do we have short memories? >> i think we have short memories. there are a lot of campaign in the past. it was really tough between gore and bush 43, that
if they can make it work, why can't they make it work in washington? we need more of that to move the country forward. we're still playing by 20th century rules in this country in almost everything we do and we're in the 21st century. what's so striking is we're all in awe of silicon valley and all it produces for us. this transformative technology. what's the mantra of silicon valley? be disruptive. don't be afraid to challenge convention. find new ways to do things. we get excited about that....
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first the theory was that the president would use hurricane sandy and its effects possibly on washington, d.c. as an excuse for delaying the jobs report until after the election. and then of course as of yesterday when they knew it was coming out, they were absolutely convinced that they would cook the books. and so we saw an up tick of .1%. >> it's a reverse psychology ploy that the obama folks are trying but it won't work. none of what the conspiracy theorists thought would happen in fact happened and there was an uptick in the percentage and a decent number of new jobs. and so it really allows both campaigns to continue with their main economic narratives. the obama narrative that things are getting better, let's stay the course and the romney narrative that things aren't getting better fast enough. >> mitt romney brought up the booming debt ceiling situation. there's going to have to be another increase relatively soon. let's listen to what he said about it today. >> you know that if the president is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in congress. i mean, he'
first the theory was that the president would use hurricane sandy and its effects possibly on washington, d.c. as an excuse for delaying the jobs report until after the election. and then of course as of yesterday when they knew it was coming out, they were absolutely convinced that they would cook the books. and so we saw an up tick of .1%. >> it's a reverse psychology ploy that the obama folks are trying but it won't work. none of what the conspiracy theorists thought would happen in...
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this is what he tells the "washington post." if you hadn't had the storm, there would have been more of a chance for the romney campaign to talk about the deficit, the debt, the economy. when you have attention drawn away to somewhere else, to something else, it is not to romney's advantage. is that really true given all the statistics have been going improving for the president in relation to the economy? >> well, that is true. i mean, i think rove is already trying to find a reason why romney is going to lose. even karl rove is now having to admit that there were some problems this week that the campaign is not looking good. >> top seed on the body before the body is dead. >> exactly. rather than admitting that maybe the conservative policy prescriptions did not appeal to the american public and bashing the president doesn't appeal to the american public he has to instead go down this path. flip-flopping, when he was a governor of massachusetts, he was a strong proponent of the regional greenhouse gas emission, right up to the
this is what he tells the "washington post." if you hadn't had the storm, there would have been more of a chance for the romney campaign to talk about the deficit, the debt, the economy. when you have attention drawn away to somewhere else, to something else, it is not to romney's advantage. is that really true given all the statistics have been going improving for the president in relation to the economy? >> well, that is true. i mean, i think rove is already trying to find a...
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not according to the most influential in washington, grover norquist. according to norquist, mitt romney is not supposed to do anything except what the republicans tell him to. >> we don't need a president to tell us what direction to go. we know what direction we want to go. we want the paul ryan budget which cuts spending $6 trillion. the republicans in the house passed 24-plus bills that create jobs and opportunity and strip out regulations. we just need a president to sign this stuff. we don't need someone to think it up or design it. we have a house and a senate. the leadership now for the modern conservative movement for the next 20 years will be coming out of the house and the sfat. >> so what he's saying is all they really need is a waffler in chief. this is the republican vision for american leadership. do it our way and that's it. they reject any attempt to stimulate the economy or pass legislation to help create jobs in this country. they openly brag about that, you know, their plan is to make president obama a one-term president. they kill c
not according to the most influential in washington, grover norquist. according to norquist, mitt romney is not supposed to do anything except what the republicans tell him to. >> we don't need a president to tell us what direction to go. we know what direction we want to go. we want the paul ryan budget which cuts spending $6 trillion. the republicans in the house passed 24-plus bills that create jobs and opportunity and strip out regulations. we just need a president to sign this stuff....
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good morning from washington. we've got a packed show today, thursday, november 1st. no more surprises. anything that happens now is a november surprise. i'm chuck todd. the storm recovery is just beginning and as victims try to put their lives back together, the frustration is beginning and it's mounting over just how long that recovery process will take. at least 74 people have been killed by the storm. millions of homes and businesses are still without power. new york city is grinding back into business a little bit and that's producing a traffic nightmare. the traffic problems are so bad that governor andrew cuomo has declared an emergency and there's a mandate of three people per vehicle for cars entering manhattan between 6:00 a.m. and midnight there. are long lines across the region. wednesday along the garden state parkway in hoboken, about a quarter of city is still flooded and 90% is without power. national guard troops are delivering food to people stuck in their homes. limited service on 14 of the city's 23 subway lines but many trains will have gaps in th
good morning from washington. we've got a packed show today, thursday, november 1st. no more surprises. anything that happens now is a november surprise. i'm chuck todd. the storm recovery is just beginning and as victims try to put their lives back together, the frustration is beginning and it's mounting over just how long that recovery process will take. at least 74 people have been killed by the storm. millions of homes and businesses are still without power. new york city is grinding back...
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website, you can see the interviews on all of those issues and all of them talk about what's wrong with washington and what could make it work better. we're back in democracy plaza and some of the stranger ways to predict who will win on tuesday. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. >>> a now a different way to predict the winner of the presidential race. you may heard of the red skins rule. when they win their last home game prior to a presidential election, that election is won by the party that won the popular vote in the previous election. when they lose the last home game, it is won by the party that lost the popular vote in the previous election. this rule is 18 for 18. it had an addendum to it because the one year it could have been wrong when they lost but president bush won re-election. but the popular vote
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a washington community was flooded after a beaver dam gave way. a deluge of water caused road closures and damage to at least one home. the homeowner had complained about the dam to county officials before it ruptured. and was told the army corps of engineers had been notified. >>> now let's get to your money. stocks edged higher monday. looking back the dow gained 3.3% on election day 2008. another note, historically the dow and the s&p have both performed about 30% better under democratic ppts than republicans. a federal judge threw out a patent suit hours before trial. tesla jumped 9% as it ramps you have production of the sedans. american suzuki filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. nike is reportedly in final talks to sell its shoe brand to a private equity firm for $500 million. phillips 66 has a major gas refinery will remain idle for two to three weeks for sandy-related repairs. >>> good news. whole frozen turkeys cost only about five cents more than two years ago. anheuser-busch is asking paramount to remove the bud logo of the movie "flight."
a washington community was flooded after a beaver dam gave way. a deluge of water caused road closures and damage to at least one home. the homeowner had complained about the dam to county officials before it ruptured. and was told the army corps of engineers had been notified. >>> now let's get to your money. stocks edged higher monday. looking back the dow gained 3.3% on election day 2008. another note, historically the dow and the s&p have both performed about 30% better under...
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and maybe are there better ways of building coalitions outside of washington, trying to go to certain places and certain states and trying to overperform in certain states. >> if he wins on tuesday night, he was able to get support because of things he did, killing bin laden, helping out hispanic kids brought to this country at an early age, these are things he did, the thing he did with governor christie the other day, these are actual doing things. >> i think the lesson is, if he wins one of the top two or three factors will be the auto rescue. that is key to ohio. if he keeps ohio, it's because of the automobiles and the fact that you can see automobiles on the street. you can see chrysler and dodge cars on the street. that's tangible and that is probably his best piece of tangible legislation. >> the one thing that you're getting at here, chris, what smir conish found out the hard way, the losing side is going to feel very aggrieved. this is not going to be like 2000 or 2004, which ever side feels like they loses, they're going to feel like it was taken from them. they're not goin
and maybe are there better ways of building coalitions outside of washington, trying to go to certain places and certain states and trying to overperform in certain states. >> if he wins on tuesday night, he was able to get support because of things he did, killing bin laden, helping out hispanic kids brought to this country at an early age, these are things he did, the thing he did with governor christie the other day, these are actual doing things. >> i think the lesson is, if he...
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how about four more years of gridlock in washington? there's no question in my view that we really can't have four more years like the last four years. i know the obama folks are chanting four more years, four more years, but our chant is this -- five more days, five more days. that's our chant. [ cheers and applause ] [ chanting ] you know, we're going to have to come up with a better slogan tomorrow, or a different one at least. i know the president's been trying to figure out some way to suggest he's got some new ideas. because with all these people out of work, with 3 million more women in poverty today than when he took officer, with 15 million more people on food stamps than when he took office, he's got to find something to suggest it's going to be better over the next four years. so he came up with an idea last week which is he's going to create the department of business. i don't think adding a new chair in his cabinet will help add millions of jobs on main street. [ cheers and applause ] i mean, unfortunately what you've seen
how about four more years of gridlock in washington? there's no question in my view that we really can't have four more years like the last four years. i know the obama folks are chanting four more years, four more years, but our chant is this -- five more days, five more days. that's our chant. [ cheers and applause ] [ chanting ] you know, we're going to have to come up with a better slogan tomorrow, or a different one at least. i know the president's been trying to figure out some way to...
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and michelle cottle, washington correspondent for newsweek and "the daily beast." thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> michelle, it's not a surprise but it seem like we're in a phase where behind the romney smile is a very rough campaign? >> absolutely. we've got a few days left. we have entered the phase of the campaign where time and again you can go there and get the little bit of an edge and radio ads that are shocking, billboards that are deceptive, voter suppression, voter intimidation, whatever it takes. >> voter subpoena prek, voter intimidation. but linking the president to hugo chavez and say we don't believe in god we trust? this is way beyond the boundaries. >> you have to hit people in the gut. you're not appealing to reason at this point, if you ever are, in a presidential campaign. you've got to get them in a gut level to get your allies all fired up and to, you know, hopefully get anybody still on the fence to really just kind of find some way to get through to them and get them over to your side. >> richard, what does this say? the pol
and michelle cottle, washington correspondent for newsweek and "the daily beast." thank you both for being here. >> thanks, rev. >> michelle, it's not a surprise but it seem like we're in a phase where behind the romney smile is a very rough campaign? >> absolutely. we've got a few days left. we have entered the phase of the campaign where time and again you can go there and get the little bit of an edge and radio ads that are shocking, billboards that are deceptive,...
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what would washington look like with mitt romney in the white house? how about democrats in full control of congress? >> no. >> or crazier still, donald trump winning the write-in vote. so i was thinking about what would happen if romney were to win and either republicans take control of the senate or democrats take control of the senate. and harry reid made some news this week with a quote. he was talking about romney's argument that he would reach out to democrats and they would be able to work together. he said mitt romney's fantasy that senate democrats will work with him to pass his severely conservative agenda is laughable. >> ouch. >> i tend to agree with harry reid, not only because romney said on day one the first thing he is going to do is repeal obama care, which democrats care very deeply about and will fight the hold on to, but if romney wins, it's going to be this vindication of this strategy of obstructionism. i think democrats may not go to the extent of holding the country hostage over raising the debt ceiling, but i think they will tr
what would washington look like with mitt romney in the white house? how about democrats in full control of congress? >> no. >> or crazier still, donald trump winning the write-in vote. so i was thinking about what would happen if romney were to win and either republicans take control of the senate or democrats take control of the senate. and harry reid made some news this week with a quote. he was talking about romney's argument that he would reach out to democrats and they would...
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places like philadelphia or washington, d.c. or houston or providence, rhode island. those are all sort of coastal cities, too, in the sense that they are near the coast and they're on waterways. just for the sake of argument, let's not even include those. let's just be narrowly focused here, talking narrowly about big populous metropolitan areas that are right up against the sea. if you add up the population of these cities on america's coastal edges, the population of just this america is more than 63 million people. that means more than one in five americans, that means roughly one in five americans, one out of every five people who can call themselves americans, lives in a metropolitan area that is right, directly on the coast. a population roughly equivalent to all the people who voted either for john mccain or barack obama in 2008. one entire side of the voting population in this upcoming election is the portion of our country that lives on the edge. as we continue to cope with and rescue people from and now recover bodies from, the impact of this one storm on t
places like philadelphia or washington, d.c. or houston or providence, rhode island. those are all sort of coastal cities, too, in the sense that they are near the coast and they're on waterways. just for the sake of argument, let's not even include those. let's just be narrowly focused here, talking narrowly about big populous metropolitan areas that are right up against the sea. if you add up the population of these cities on america's coastal edges, the population of just this america is...
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dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor and ana marie cox, washington correspondent for "the guardian." thank you both for being here. >> good to be here. >> e.j., is there any method behind the madness? >> well, first of all, i want to say that i can both a nuclear physicist and a major legal baseball player. if you can make it up while you go along, why not. look, on elections it's an old game to say my guy is winning whether my guy is winning or not. they've launched a huge campaign to discredit nate silver of the "new york times" even though he's one of the best number crunchers and, in fact, used to be a baseball number cruncher. some of it is normal but some of it isn't. i think, in particular, the governor romney's claim that jeep was moving jobs to china and people at the plant as president obama said today were worried that their jobs were going to disappear and when you have corporate executives saying, wait a minute, the republican candidate is making stuff up, you really have entered some kind of strange zone at that point. >> you know, ana marie, donald
dionne, columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor and ana marie cox, washington correspondent for "the guardian." thank you both for being here. >> good to be here. >> e.j., is there any method behind the madness? >> well, first of all, i want to say that i can both a nuclear physicist and a major legal baseball player. if you can make it up while you go along, why not. look, on elections it's an old game to say my guy is winning whether...
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tomorrow, same-sex marriage meshes in maine, maryland, washington and minnesota and could yield pivotal results. maryland could be the first to vote it in. joining me now live from my hometown of baltimore, martin o'malley. it's good to have you here. i want to get straight to these numbers. as we know, the support for marriage equality nationally is at 54%. americans say they approve, however, a recent poll shows the issue is is now in a dead heat for your state and as i've been doing my research, i've hearned some leaders may rally against it. is this an influence of politics? >> i don't think so. i think that sun poll is an outliou outlier. most of the polls show that we can come to the conclusion that we can protect religious freedom and rights. we can do both. that's what question six is all about. so with the exception of that baltimore sun poll, most of the others are showing marriage equality running several points ahead. and we're hoping that tomorrow, marylanders of every faith will vote for marriage equality. >> sir, as we've seen and known for years, maryland is solidly blue
tomorrow, same-sex marriage meshes in maine, maryland, washington and minnesota and could yield pivotal results. maryland could be the first to vote it in. joining me now live from my hometown of baltimore, martin o'malley. it's good to have you here. i want to get straight to these numbers. as we know, the support for marriage equality nationally is at 54%. americans say they approve, however, a recent poll shows the issue is is now in a dead heat for your state and as i've been doing my...
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i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. the hurricane and this president. hemingway called it grace under pressure, the highly educated call it good government. the american people who count the most call president obama's handling of tropical storm sandy positive. 4 out of 5 give him good marks as first responder in the crisis. the question before the election is whether this huge story about disaster and executive response is the last big one before we vote. is it the october surprise? the black swan that swoops out of nowhere and changes everything? as scarlet o'hara said, there's always tomorrow. chuck todd is nbc's political director and john heilemann is "new york magazine's" national affairs editor and an msnbc analyst. i guess that's my question to start, but let me give you this first. the president this afternoon bagged a big endorsement, new york mayor mike bloomberg, who is always interesting to watch. he cited the president's stance on climate change as the major reason. he writes, quote, one believes a woman's right to choose should be protect
i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with this. the hurricane and this president. hemingway called it grace under pressure, the highly educated call it good government. the american people who count the most call president obama's handling of tropical storm sandy positive. 4 out of 5 give him good marks as first responder in the crisis. the question before the election is whether this huge story about disaster and executive response is the last big one before we vote. is it the...
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we begin with nbc's mike viqueira in washington. mike with a good day to you. i know you've just listened to a white house briefing on two big stories. let's talk about israel first. >> reporter: well you're right. we did hear from senior white house officials. aboard air force one the president on his way to southeast asia for a historic trip there. but these activities are really unfolding in israel and the gaza strip is dominating attention worldwide. the president spoke again with the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he has spoken with him each day before this crisis began to unfold. they talked about the iron dome program, the anti-rocket defense that is so far from what we can tell effectively protecting israel from those rocket strikes out of the gaza strip. the president has also spoken with the new egyptian president, mohammed mersi and turkish prime minister. they have relations with has mass according to the senior official they were encouraged to engage hamas to get them to stop the rocket strikes which the official characterized as the pr
we begin with nbc's mike viqueira in washington. mike with a good day to you. i know you've just listened to a white house briefing on two big stories. let's talk about israel first. >> reporter: well you're right. we did hear from senior white house officials. aboard air force one the president on his way to southeast asia for a historic trip there. but these activities are really unfolding in israel and the gaza strip is dominating attention worldwide. the president spoke again with the...
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this is what he tells the "washington post." if you hadn't had the storm, there would have been more of a chance for the romney campaign to talk about the deficit, the debt, the economy. when you have attention drawn away to somewhere else, to something else, it is not to romney's advantage. is that really true given all the statistics have been going improving for the president in relation to the economy? >> well, that is true. i mean, i think rove is already trying to find a reason why romney is going to lose. even karl rove is now having to admit that there were some problems this week that the campaign is not looking good. >> topsy on the body before the body is dead. >> exactly. rather than admitting that maybe the conservative policy prescriptions did not appeal to the american public and bashing the president doesn't appeal to the american public he has to instead go down this path. flip-flopping, when he was a governor of massachusetts, he was a strong proponent of the regional greenhouse gas emission, right up to the po
this is what he tells the "washington post." if you hadn't had the storm, there would have been more of a chance for the romney campaign to talk about the deficit, the debt, the economy. when you have attention drawn away to somewhere else, to something else, it is not to romney's advantage. is that really true given all the statistics have been going improving for the president in relation to the economy? >> well, that is true. i mean, i think rove is already trying to find a...
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here's the dirty secret in washington. most of the moderate not crazy republicans, really are sick of the tea party. they get the fact that they have been dragged down, their numbers in terms of a party, has been dragged down by the tea party. that the obstruction is not working. they were close to getting a deal and who was it, eric cantor and the tea partiers that made it not happen. looks like michelle bachmann and a couple other key tea partiers are on their way out the door -- i had to do it. >> i really wanted to do that. >> michele bachmann out the door. >> that sets the table for compromising. that's part of what president obama and his campaign have talked about when they say the results of the election to some degree will give the conditions for which they think there will be a better opportunity to negotiate where they can and push it through where they can't. >> norm, we probably have to wrap it up here. i do want to get -- we talk on this show a lot of prognostication about what happens to the republican party
here's the dirty secret in washington. most of the moderate not crazy republicans, really are sick of the tea party. they get the fact that they have been dragged down, their numbers in terms of a party, has been dragged down by the tea party. that the obstruction is not working. they were close to getting a deal and who was it, eric cantor and the tea partiers that made it not happen. looks like michelle bachmann and a couple other key tea partiers are on their way out the door -- i had to do...